The Secret Formula 2011

Postby J-Pav » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:23 pm

[b:fae3f3778a]key[/b:fae3f3778a],

It's a [i:fae3f3778a]tour[/i:fae3f3778a] league. 500 is ALL our destinies!!

Embrace the pain!

:D :( :?
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Thanks!

Postby TomSiebert » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:42 pm

Just wanted to say "Thanks!" to JPav and everybody else for the very interesting information, commentary and debate, not to mention the two spectacular chicks.

tws
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Postby J-Pav » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:10 am

Your welcome Tom and nice work so far in Tour Semis League 1!

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Postby MrHacktastic » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:30 am

I didn't use your exact formula but I did decide to take it easy on the high priced talent in my second season based on this thread and some other well thought out advice I had received. I am having more success this time. I also learned my lesson from the first season and I'm not making roster moves and taking the 20% hit despite not liking some things on my team. I was 16 games over 500 in my first season until I started making roster moves. I ended up 81-81 after a 38-22 or so start.

My starting pitching doesn't fit your formula but my lineup turned out not to be all that different although it wasn't on purpose necessarily. I have also been studying the defensive runs allowed chart posted on this site. My big regret is Dale Murphy. I didn't cut him before the 20% cap hit came into effect and he is terrible for his salary. My team would have been much better and I could have plugged CF and gotten either a 3b who could hit RHP or a hitting C with that money. Oh well.

I continue to check your team to see how you are doing. I use the 1986 roster so I don't have the luxury of carrying as many high injury players as you do on this squad. I have a couple and it is scary. If they go down I have adequate defense on the bench but the offensive loss is pretty huge.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=362364
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Postby J-Pav » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:39 pm

If I remember the source correctly, I believe it was the [i:a81c2daf16]By The Book[/i:a81c2daf16] book, an optimal lineup would consist of nine hitters who produce equally well and just above average.

I think to translate that ideal offense in our SOM Online world, you would start with nine $5 mil batters. If you want to adjust for at-bats accordingly, you might find yourself with a 6-6-6-5-5-5-4-4-4 roster. But with twelve managers all chasing the best priced players between four and six million, there just aren't enough players to go around. I think this is why the salary structure ends up being what it is. The high end and low end both get stretched from the middle to best accommodate the race for obtaining the most solid (but unspectacular) players.

How many times do you see a $4 mil platoon out produce the $12 mil guy? To me it seems like a lot, especially when I'm holding the $12 mil guy!
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Postby MrHacktastic » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:06 pm

just out of curiosity why are you using Putz so infrequently? Seems like he would be more suited for closer than Wood but obviously you are winning so it is stupid to argue with what works. I simply noticed he is pitching less than Wood and making a lot more money and pitching much much more effectively when he is used.
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Postby J-Pav » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:18 pm

I'm going to take a look at this later, because you're exactly right.

My starters are going so deep that Putz is a redundancy as the second set-up man after Venters. He probably should get the nod as closer. I like the idea of having a RHP replacing my lefty starters as set-up, but I guess HAL is bypassing that idea regardless.

I'm also biased toward Wood as closer, because he's done very well for me for all of this card set. I like a cheap three-out guy for the 9th inning as I like to spend according to innings-pitched.

It's not broken, but I might fool around with this as you suggested.

Thx! :idea:
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Postby MrHacktastic » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:43 pm

[quote:dde1d5212f="J-Pav"]I'm going to take a look at this later, because you're exactly right.

My starters are going so deep that Putz is a redundancy as the second set-up man after Venters. He probably should get the nod as closer. I like the idea of having a RHP replacing my lefty starters as set-up, but I guess HAL is bypassing that idea regardless.

I'm also biased toward Wood as closer, because he's done very well for me for all of this card set. I like a cheap three-out guy for the 9th inning as I like to spend according to innings-pitched.

It's not broken, but I might fool around with this as you suggested.

Thx! :idea:[/quote:dde1d5212f]

I actually totally agree with the cheap 3 out idea as I am doing the same thing in my season. My starters don't go as deep as yours, but in my 1986 set Lee Smith is my equivalent of Putz and he is getting a lot of innings and then my cheaper 3 out closer gets the save. My cheap 3 out closer has happened to get off to a great start making the strategy pay off so far (knock on wood).

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=362364
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A Very Anomalous team

Postby joethejet » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:49 am

Hey J,

Finally got around to reading your TSF post. Alway interesting and much appreciated.

Thought you might find this team interesting: http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/playoffs/team_other.html?user_id=335921&stats=sim&onroster=1

We were outside your highs and lows in several places.

Pitching (31.06)
SP (17.66) Lowest #1,2&4 5.55, 4.82, 2.48 The #5 was only .87 but didn't pitch much. I'm not sure how you account for that.

RP (13.4) Highest across the board with Meek topping at 4.71. If I'm reading this right, you didn't see any #1 RP > 3.82 in cost on a champ team?

Offense
Lowest #1 8.41 and all of 7-10
Highest #5 4.61, #6 4.03

Maybe I just got very lucky (some truth to that I think)

Jet
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Postby J-Pav » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:08 am

Hi [b:e4fa51b04d]Joe[/b:e4fa51b04d],

Your offense is pretty close to the averages I found (in parentheses):

1. $8.41 ($9.49)
2. $7.99 ($8.00)
3. $7.15 ($7.14)
4. $6.88 ($6.32)
5. $4.61 ($4.42)
6. $4.03 ($3.37)
7. $2.49 ($2.86)
8. $1.24 ($1.66)

(Why did you pay Castro $4.61 for 300 at bats?)

Your bullpen is much higher:

1. $4.71 ($3.61)
2. $3.40 ($2.39)
3. $3.20 ($1.41)
4. $1.08 ($0.84)
5. $1.01 ($0.80)

Mariano Rivera at $5.51 was the highest priced reliever I saw over the 20 sample Champs teams.

Yours was definitely the highest priced bullpen at $13.40. Why pay Lopez $1.08 for 17 innings and Axford $3.40 for 52 innings? Two bucks would have greatly upgraded Zito, but who was available at that time would have been a factor, too.

Of course, this is all in hindsight. A ring is a ring is a ring. :D

Thx for posting your team!
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